Since doomsie's back... THE OFFICIAL COMICBOOK/GEEK THREAD

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So... DC reboot?
Discuss.

[doom]

DC REBOOT

Before I say anything else, I realize that it has major potential to be a disaster, but saying that...

I think its a good idea. At first I was like, "whaaaaaat???" but once realizing how little I really care for the vast majority of stuff coming out for DC at this point, it seems very wise that they do this. Yes, I'm reading Batman: Inc., Secret Six, Darkest Night, and trying to care about Birds of Prey. But lately it just seems when I care about anything DC its for the older stuff thats been out for years, but i never got in to (All the Frank Miller Batman, etc.)

I think this is something that needs to happen for them to continue relevance as a company, and to compete with the very modern Marvel franchise. Of course, this could completely BOMB and really hurt the franchise, but Bold moves need to be taken, especially in the bigger companies right now.

I also think that while it may not be right, a lot of younger readers really want relevant tales. They need NEW and FRESH stories, and don't necessarily want to have to go back and read 60-100 issues just to catch up with whats on the shelf right now, and it will shed a new light on a lot of forgotten Super Heroes and Villains like Aquaman, Hawkman, or Black Adam.

It is still too early to really tell too much at this point, but I can't say Im not excited for all the possibilities this will open up.

I love the new look for Catwoman btw.

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I was with it at the beginning... because the creative teams looked real intriguing... but then more news rolled up and it just really upset me.

Like Gail Simone off of BOP! WTF.
And then canceling Secret Six and making a new Suicide Squad title without Gail. DOUBLE WTF.

Then you have things like giving more work to Rob Liefeld (why?!) and not hiring other talented artists like Nicola Scott or Jamal Igle...

But the biggest shit pile was how they treated some of the creators in this by withholding information and dropping them off the rebooted books at the last minute.

Not to mention the backpedalling and inconsistent new "rules".

For example:
Characters are going to be younger and starting their careers earlier (ok, fine).
But every male Robin will be around in some form including Damien (so Bruce had him when he was 12 or 15?) yet the latter Batgirls and Huntress won't be around?
wait what?

Just way confusing.

And some of the costume redesigns look fugmo.

CATWOMAN looks great... but she doesn't look that far off from the previous redesign...
Superman's however... guh.

As far as books i'm looking forward to:
Action Comics #1 by Grant Morrison sounds interesting... but really, rebooting Action when it just reached #901???

-Also looking forward to:
-Simone's Batgirl and Firestorm relaunch.
-Johns' GL and JL and Aquaman Books (guilty pleasure).
-The new Wonder Woman because i fucking love Cliff Chiang.
-Flash -- but i'm worried with Johns abandonning it...
-DC Universe presents, because we could use a good anthology book
-Batman & Robin because Damien rules (and Tomasi is a great writer)


I'd be all over Hawk & Dove if Liefeld wasn't drawing it. I fucking love Sterling Gates, but I can't get past Rob's pencils...

In short, I don't think this whole relaunch will get new long-term readers... I think it'll just piss off a lot of the old ones.


[end of long DC rant that I've wanted to type forever but waited till doomsie signed up so I wouldn't be talking to myself. ]

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Grant Morrison is great. I'm really into a lot more indie stuff right now, but that sucks with Secret Six! A lot of people are pissed with BOP. Of course it will piss off a lot of old school readers, and it is retarded that they are throwing some old stories to the wind, never to be finished. I really hadn't read much past the initial announcement of the whole thing, but it's going to happen anyways, so here to hoping there's issues on the shelf ill pick up and buy.

OH! Since all the M.I.A. BS, I've met

-Amanda Conner (Power Girl, etc.) Sweet Lady really
-Daniel Way (Deadpool, wolverine) WHAT A FUNNY DRUNK! he's really awesome, and i got into a drunken ramble with him about loving writing, etc. Just a cool ass dude, got all my deadpools signed, and drank with him for a couple hours.
-Nick Spencer and Joe Eisma (Morning Glories, Infinite Vaction) Couple friken hipsters!
-Pia Guerra (Y The Last Man, Dr. Who Comic) Shes awesome

A) If you saw it, What did you think of First Class?
B) Thor?
C) Upcoming Green Lantern Movie?
D) Upcoming Captain America?
E) BANE PICTURE RELEASE?
F) Announced Deadpool Movie?
G) Dark Tower Movie?

Im sure I'm missing a shit ton, but its been a bit and theres a shit ton of nerd stuff going on right now!

[individualzero]

My Thor nutshell review:

Probably the best Marvel movie to date TECHNICALLY. I'm more of an Iron Man fan, so it says a lot from me to say that. Personally, as a Stark/Iron Man fanboy, obviously I liked that series better, but Thor is my second fave right now. It clearly felt like an origin movie, BUT the good thing about that is that they presented it so well, that even fans who have a solid grasp on Thor's background -- given that his backstory is basically everything Norse, ever -- will have a blast with this movie. It was unexpectedly hilarious with some of the blatant humor and in-jokes and the fight scenes, while some of them were pretty much overly flashy, meld in well with the rest of the cinematography. That is to say, 99% of the movie is shot gorgeously. Even the desert scenes are spruced up with cool effects or good camera work. It's one of those films that looks like it might be cheesy before you watch it, but then you watch it and it's a ridiculous amount of fun. It isn't an overproduced film with just pretty effects, either: the cast is pretty much entirely made of solid actors that make the movie flow well. I kind of figured they picked Chris Hemsworth because he's "ohmygod like SOOOO hawt", but he really blew me away because he made Thor feel like he was a character with more than two dimensions to him.

Take it from me. Before the movie, Thor bored the shit out of me and I couldn't care if he was in the Avengers or not. Now, I'm freakin' stoked. The film was well worth the ticket price to see it in theaters. Just don't bother with the 3D version.

P.S. No, seriously: Chris Hemsworth surprised the fuck out of me. I figured someone who was on an Aussie day soap couldn't act for shit, but he blew me away as Thor. Props, Mr. Hemsworth.

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Just the fact that Natalie Portman and Kat Dennings were on the screen together often was almost too much to compute. ha.

and with ANY comic vs. movie adaptation, the first thing you have to tell yourself is its going to be impossible to live up to the comic, and the amount of storyline they posses. to cram all of that into a 2 hour movie means there will be cuts to structure, etc. Thor was good in its own way. It was funny, the ladies were babe-a-licious, and the acting was good.

but, saying that, Thor bored the shit out of you before the movie?  damn.
and yeah, fuck the 3D version of just about any movie, ha.

[individualzero]

but, saying that, Thor bored the shit out of you before the movie?  damn.

Being a '90s kid, bear in mind that (to me), a fair amount of '90s comics were crap. That paired with the fact that comic book characters with magic and magic-type origins bored the shit out of me did not bode well for Thor, so I just never picked up any of his comics - I'd never seen him in any form period, not even cartoons, so I really just looked at the covers and went "BORING". Before the movie he was just "that viking fucker with the lightning and that shitty hammer". Now I'm pretty stoked to see him in The Avengers.

I apologize for my nerd-heresy.

and yeah, fuck the 3D version of just about any movie, ha.

Sums up my feelings spot-on. The current iteration of 3D is no less a gimmick than it was with '80s and '90s movies - one that never truly adds anything to a movie.

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I was always very partial to Thor because I love Norse Mythology, Vikings, etc. 

so, to clarify, you didn't like heroes who were born into their powers?

[individualzero]

I used to as a kid. My favorite origin is still technology - I just find it more interesting, for some obscure reason - but magic heroes can be cool as hell too. I also didn't much care for the Norse mythos or vikings in my youth (I WAS FUCKED UP, I KNOOOOW), but funnily enough, Warhammer Fantasy got me hooked on Chaos -- and the subsequent real-life Norse mythos it's loosely based off of. Thor was a pleasant wake-up punch to the face.

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This thread has more vagina-be-gone than a Liberace pool party at the Vatican.

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BAH, they have/had their womens thread.

this is the he-man-woman-hatin' part of p.i.
unless of course...you know...ladies want to talk nerd stuff...

but if not, BAH.

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-Amanda Conner (Power Girl, etc.) Sweet Lady really
-Daniel Way (Deadpool, wolverine) WHAT A FUNNY DRUNK! he's really awesome, and i got into a drunken ramble with him about loving writing, etc. Just a cool ass dude, got all my deadpools signed, and drank with him for a couple hours.
-Nick Spencer and Joe Eisma (Morning Glories, Infinite Vaction) Couple friken hipsters!
-Pia Guerra (Y The Last Man, Dr. Who Comic) Shes awesome

jealous! love connor and guerra! and way's friggin' cool.
we're getting a sweet con here in september finally.
stan lee, gail simone, dale eaglesham, james marsters, and adam west and burt ward. ha.

A) If you saw it, What did you think of First Class?

not yet. still kinda scurred.

B) Thor?

beyond fucking awesome. easily my fave marvel film thus far. they nailed everything while keeping it interesting to noobs.
so good. so much fan boy splooge going on.

C) Upcoming Green Lantern Movie?

another flick i fear for. the trailers are getting better, and it looks cool, and there's a lot of fan service, but i hear it's getting real bad reviews.
then again, so did duke nukem, which is a whole separate rant.
i'll see it because i'm a huge dc nut, and love GL... but wow, i'm kinda worried.

D) Upcoming Captain America?

SO FUCKING STOKED. AND I'M CANADIAN!?!?!
but yeah, marvel is definitely kicking DC's ass in terms of quality films, and I think the trend is continuing.

E) BANE PICTURE RELEASE?

still early. subtle enough. bane is an awesome character that always got the shaft.
like in that horrible batman & robin film.
guh.
but he's a great character... but wow, does he have to be used right.

F) Announced Deadpool Movie?
G) Dark Tower Movie?

not as stoked as the other stuff... never got into dark tower, and as far as deadpool, i think he only works right in the comic or videogame field.

My Thor nutshell review:

yeah i agree with most of what you said. thor never really did it for me. he's always good in ensemble pieces... altho the new fraction run is awesomesauce.

Just don't bother with the 3D version.

oh, god. i know.

Just the fact that Natalie Portman and Kat Dennings were on the screen together often was almost too much to compute. ha.

YES.

you have to tell yourself is its going to be impossible to live up to the comic, and the amount of storyline they posses. to cram all of that into a 2 hour movie means there will be cuts to structure, etc. Thor was good in its own way.

i think they managed to do all that and then some.
it's possible to make a good film and respect the source material.
this film proved that.
even moreso than ironman. and i fucking loved ironman.

I apologize for my nerd-heresy.

nah, man. the 90s were a brutal time for all. that's why i fear for the dc reboot. just screams 90s to me.

Sums up my feelings spot-on. The current iteration of 3D is no less a gimmick than it was with '80s and '90s movies - one that never truly adds anything to a movie.

I think it only works great in horror films that were actually filmed in 3D.
It's a gimmick, but the same can be said for a lot of slasher flicks, and i think that's why it works in that field.
case in point: my bloody valentine 3D.
3D CAMEL TOE. AND 3D MIDGET THRU A CEILING FAN.
Nuff Said.

This thread has more vagina-be-gone than a Liberace pool party at the Vatican.

<3

BAH, they have/had their womens thread.

this is the he-man-woman-hatin' part of p.i.
unless of course...you know...ladies want to talk nerd stuff...

but if not, BAH.

http://www.break.com/break-best-videos/geek-and-gamer-girls-1958264

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jealous! love connor and guerra! and way's friggin' cool.
we're getting a sweet con here in september finally.
stan lee, gail simone, dale eaglesham, james marsters, and adam west and burt ward. ha.
not yet. still kinda scurred.

http://www.break.com/break-best-videos/geek-and-gamer-girls-1958264

actually got to ask a question to Stan Lee in a con room of fandom with him,'
first off, hes really funny and cool to talk with,

but i asked him who he wishes he created, etc.
and his two answers were: Deadpool and Batman.

Cons are awesome. Went to megacon, lotsa nerd fun.

X-Men was good is you turn your origin/nerd-perfect brain off.
Thor- Duh/
Green Lantern- Ill see it. Its 50/50
CAPTAIN AMERICA - nuff said
Bane looks ba-dass.  Fuck the batman/robin movie version, i think this one has great promiss, and if it plays well to his original origins, this movie will be amazing.
Dark Tower - GET INTO IT, DUMMY
Deadpool - Can't Hate, but will see.

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also, seeing your avatar makes me really miss deadpool the PIer.

[Naylzie]

also, seeing your avatar makes me really miss deadpool the PIer.

Me too

I'd spend more time in this thread if a) it weren't all super-hero-centric and b) I actually stayed current with any comics.  I never really got into the Darkhorse continuation of Buffy OR Firefly, Sandman is a done deal, Vasquez never followed up with JtHM (not that I'm sure I'd read it now, though I probably would pick up further issues of I Feel Sick if they were to come into existence), and beyond that, I mostly find myself reading graphic novels that have been around forever, e.g. Watchmen and The Crow.  Would still like to get my hands on a copy of V for Vendetta, though I worry that it may tarnish my love of the movie.